BAG Game for January 5 & 6.

First topic message reminder :

BAG Game Schedule for the 1st week-end of January 2008

January 5 (Saturday, 10:00 AM)
Jungle/CQB at Kitma

January 6 (Sunday, 10:00 AM)
Jungle at DA Stock Farm

Rally Point :
Caltex Victory at 9:30AM

Game Fee : Php40/player for Non Members & non-updated members
Php20/player for BAG updated Members

Please visit our website also and if you are here in manila just contact us and I hope we can play.

http://www.rbgm.proboards55.com/

u r very much welcome sir, better if u have ur team or u personally join us.....Hey guys we have visitors.... lets entertain them

Tupa wrote:

My suggestion:
1.0 I will limit the number of persons I will invite to our games. Anyway we enjoy the game more when there are only 30-50 players around. We will still invite independent players but we might only invite them for 3-games. After this, they must decide if they want to join BAG or remain independent or join other groups and will then stop receiving game invitations from me.
2.0 Impose a higher Game fee for non-BAG member.

I like to hear your comments...

#1
> masyado po marami apektado other residents sa kitma compound kung pati yung jungle pag lalaruan natin
> delikado po yung jungle site dun kasi marami masyado butas
> i think we should stop pushing the boundary site limits because we are
already lucky enough to be using the building
> hintayin pa po ba natin mag complain yung ibang residents
and risk our permit of playing there?

#2
> one reason we kept on playing the "jungle-cqb" scenario yesterday is to be able to accomodate the number of players who were present
> kung BAG members lang, kasya po tayo dun for plain cqb games
> kaya po tayo nag hanap ng CQB site, is para maka laro ang
members natin ng plain CQB (and jungle-cqb as an alternative game only)
> lets not compromise our game sites and game scenarios just because
marami masyado ang nag lalaro (lalo na po kapag most of w/c are non-members)
> i suggest we make the CQB games exclusive for BAG members.

#3
> one more thing : mahirap po pag-sabihan yung ibang visitors natin kahapon sa CQB. we should not risk inviting non members who may
end up being "pasaway", why? kasi po close range ang laro natin sa cqb.
> pasaway + close range games -- not a good combination
> BAG is very open to newbies and indepentent players,
welcome rin tayo sa mga ibang airsoft teams
> however i think we should focus first on the welfare and enjoyment
of our OWN members, bago po natin isipin ang mga non-members


just my opinion

navyseal33 wrote:

Tupa wrote:

My suggestion:
1.0 I will limit the number of persons I will invite to our games. Anyway we enjoy the game more when there are only 30-50 players around. We will still invite independent players but we might only invite them for 3-games. After this, they must decide if they want to join BAG or remain independent or join other groups and will then stop receiving game invitations from me.
2.0 Impose a higher Game fee for non-BAG member.

I like to hear your comments...

#1
> masyado po marami apektado other residents sa kitma compound kung pati yung jungle pag lalaruan natin
> delikado po yung jungle site dun kasi marami masyado butas
> i think we should stop pushing the boundary site limits because we are
already lucky enough to be using the building
> hintayin pa po ba natin mag complain yung ibang residents
and risk our permit of playing there?

#2
> one reason we kept on playing the "jungle-cqb" scenario yesterday is to be able to accomodate the number of players who were present
> kung BAG members lang, kasya po tayo dun for plain cqb games
> kaya po tayo nag hanap ng CQB site, is para maka laro ang
members natin ng plain CQB (and jungle-cqb as an alternative game only)
> lets not compromise our game sites and game scenarios just because
marami masyado ang nag lalaro (lalo na po kapag most of w/c are non-members)
> i suggest we make the CQB games exclusive for BAG members.

#3
> one more thing : mahirap po pag-sabihan yung ibang visitors natin kahapon sa CQB. we should not risk inviting non members who may
end up being "pasaway", why? kasi po close range ang laro natin sa cqb.
> pasaway + close range games -- not a good combination
> BAG is the very open to newbies and indepentent players,
welcome rin tayo sa mga ibang airsoft teams
> however i think we should focus first on the welfare and enjoyment
of our OWN members, bago po natin isipin ang mga non-members


just my opinion

amen... and pls do observe rin po the REAL PASAWAY who is/are playing with us... im not mentioning anyone or anybody but you know who you are..

"LAHAT TAYO PANTAY PANTAY SA LARONG ERSOP"

"wala sa laki ng baril at liit ng baril"

It would be so sad of me as freelancer not to play with you guys if you impose your proposal as to accepting independent players in your games. I opted to remain a freelancer because I am a resident of La Trinidad and that it would be absurd joining your group while our area's airsofter population is growing. If in case all La Trinidad airsofters would be united and decide on putting up a group, I would appear as a turn coat to you if for instance I joined your group because I would surely join the group based on the area where I stay as a sign of devotion to my place of residence.







Just thinking out loud.

betagboy wrote:

It would be so sad of me as freelancer not to play with you guys if you impose your proposal as to accepting independent players in your games. I opted to remain a freelancer because I am a resident of La Trinidad and that it would be absurd joining your group while our area's airsofter population is growing. If in case all La Trinidad airsofters would be united and decide on putting up a group, I would appear as a turn coat to you if for instance I joined your group because I would surely join the group based on the area where I stay as a sign of devotion to my place of residence.







Just thinking out loud.

why not form a squad or a team there sir and BAG will absorb it under its umbrella

Abis wrote:

betagboy wrote:

It would be so sad of me as freelancer not to play with you guys if you impose your proposal as to accepting independent players in your games. I opted to remain a freelancer because I am a resident of La Trinidad and that it would be absurd joining your group while our area's airsofter population is growing. If in case all La Trinidad airsofters would be united and decide on putting up a group, I would appear as a turn coat to you if for instance I joined your group because I would surely join the group based on the area where I stay as a sign of devotion to my place of residence.







Just thinking out loud.

why not form a squad or a team there sir and BAG will absorb it under its umbrella

I agree with Sir Abis...why not talk to Prez Tupa and ask if you can form a squad made up of your group under BAG. That way, you become members and at the same time, you create awareness that La Trinidad has an organized group open for membership. We enjoy playing with you guys too. Kaya sayang naman kung sa BIG games na lang tayo makakalaro....
Just a suggestion mga sirs....

trinidad airsofters

we appreciate it very much that u take time out and go out of your way just to play with us....we salute you for that

the best remedy there, as suggested by abis ,is to make your own squad...and play with us....walang problema un...pls make contact with sir tupa...i am sure he will accommodate ur request

umpah

betagboy wrote:

It would be so sad of me as freelancer not to play with you guys if you impose your proposal as to accepting independent players in your games. I opted to remain a freelancer because I am a resident of La Trinidad and that it would be absurd joining your group while our area's airsofter population is growing. If in case all La Trinidad airsofters would be united and decide on putting up a group, I would appear as a turn coat to you if for instance I joined your group because I would surely join the group based on the area where I stay as a sign of devotion to my place of residence.
Just thinking out loud.

> Whats wrong with joining BAG sir?
> BAG has no problem with dual membership
> My suggestion - be a member of BAG
(non updated if you cant afford the monthly dues)

betagboy wrote:

I would appear as a turn coat

> turn coat???
> no real war is being faught here sir
> we are just trying to emphasize that BAG members must reap
the full benefits of being members of BAG
> one benefit of BAG is having a CQB site
> thus my suggestion that BAG CQB games should be exclusive
to BAG members only

> if being a BAG member means that you will appear to be a
traitor to the people of LTB???
> in my opinion that is non logical
> again - no real war is being faught here
> again - my suggestion - be a member of BAG
(non-updated if you cant afford the monthly dues)

partially agree with you navy. but why non-updated? we should encourage updated membership so members can reap the so-called benefits of amember, not to mention that monthly dues from members mean the lifeblood of BAG. Anyway, as you correctly stated, BAG is not particular with dual membership, so long as the clubs would not have conflicting interests.

sirs, here's my two-cents worth idea why I support the move to limit the cqb to BAG members. First, the venue is not that large hence it can only accommodate so much. Per experience, once you allow thirty (15 per team) players at a given game, most of us cannot enjoy the game anymore. Why and How? With that number, practically every corner of the building is occupied so you cannot run, neither can you hide. The tendency is if you want to stay long, either you keep your head down, dont move and so no encounter. If the other players have the same intention...what a boring game it would be. With a lesser number of players, collection of registration fee would be more manageable. I believe sir joey would agree with me that there are some who come and play even without paying the game fee. In fairness, this is true for BAG members and non-members. Another reason? the more players mean mnore wear and tear for the building and the improvements we introduce therein. There are some pasaway na players, including members, me too sometimes. But it is easier to call the attention of the pasaway na player kung member siya kc any fellow member can do so. Unlike if he is a non-member, hiya yung member na tawagin ang pansin, Recourse? Inform sir Tupa, which means additional concern for him e, bc pa naman siya sa kagugulong to test his new pair of shoes. For non-CQB games where the venue can accommodate more, I agree with others' suggestions that they must pay a higher fee kc if something happens sa gamesite paanagalan ng BAG ang nakataya. For example, last week a BAG member merely left his paperplate by the roadside after eating but after I motioned to him his plate, he readily placed it in the trash bag. a visitor got a stick from his cigarette pack and just threw the empty pack on the road. I saw him do it and he saw me that I saw him. He did not make any move to throw the litter sa ttrash bag. Di ba in our last meeting, we emphasized that we should respect our gamesites?

umpah

how bout a 5 on 5 game during cqb? pila nlang yung iba para di magulo yung game.

we tried that, its good...pag konti lang ang players

we also tried, 5 player per floor, ok din

umpah

yap, the number of playersshould be dependent sa areang enclosure. this way, you can also do your moves, specially those who try to work as a team. also for those who prefer to work solo. di yung pagka start and you move, halos kadukit na ng baril mo yung baril ng kalaban mo sa dami. agree ako dyan sa alternate teams ang laro. suggestion, while the other teams are waiting they should be given a specific scenario or objective so they can use their waiting time planning their moves. this way, matututo tayong magwork as a team and maging mas close pa tayo.

i already edited my post sir
> i agree with your observations and suggestions

rockhound wrote:

how bout a 5 on 5 game during cqb? .

> yup, we already tried this sir
> pati CQB speed ball
> masaya and high intensity
> sa ganun scenarios mo talaga ma enjoy yung cqb
> not sa jungle-cqb / lalo na yung 15 vs 15..

Thanks so much sirs Abis, Zuljin, and Yobski for your suggestion. i'll try to talk to sir Tupa the next game we'll play with you guys.

@navyseal
i think you didn't get what i was trying to say. What i meant when i mentioned "turn coat" was that there would be conflict of interest in my part, that my support for BAG would be lost if in case i were a member. That would be the problem if i would join another group.

Quote :

> if being a BAG member means that you will appear to be a
traitor to the people of LTB???
> in my opinion that is non logical

i never mentioned this. i think this was your own idea. yes it's not logical. you just over reacted on my thoughts.

BAG member??>traitor??>people of la trinidad?? really not logical and never mentioned by me.

what? kinda reading over the topic.hehehe.i respect al of the decisons of the forum.i am a freelance player.never been a member of any club or so because i love playing with alot of persons.alot of perople are inviting me on gamesites.but if bag will be imposing a policy regarding exclusive games for membership,its been good playing wiht you guys.yes there has been alot of issues regarding pasaways,zombies and everything.but sad to say who is the perfect team?ive read alot of topics in your site,even topic as long as 10 pages,ive read alot of complains,definitely most are from bag members.conflict from teams and players, ive observed a cople of it. ive seen as well some of your members which are way out of hand. well who can say he/she's perfect. i will still be a freelancer. where were the days that we just play with anybody,inviting everybody. ive met a couple of you guys, sharing stories and stuf, i guess those days are over now. exclusive games, yes we respect those who are members of bag,its realy unfair for those who just play with you guys and memebers have to pay for membership. dominance over game site; long before the baguio alliance was formed, and teams were members of the said alliance,correct me if im wrong but from what ive heared there was agreement thru the teams of designation of work.those who attended know those detail. still i will still be an airsofter,who gives respect to any team and any individual player. just giving my point of view

raven wrote:

what? kinda reading over the topic.hehehe.i respect al of the decisons of the forum.i am a freelance player.never been a member of any club or so because i love playing with alot of persons.alot of perople are inviting me on gamesites.but if bag will be imposing a policy regarding exclusive games for membership,its been good playing wiht you guys.yes there has been alot of issues regarding pasaways,zombies and everything.but sad to say who is the perfect team?ive read alot of topics in your site,even topic as long as 10 pages,ive read alot of complains,definitely most are from bag members.conflict from teams and players, ive observed a cople of it. ive seen as well some of your members which are way out of hand. well who can say he/she's perfect. i will still be a freelancer. where were the days that we just play with anybody,inviting everybody. ive met a couple of you guys, sharing stories and stuf, i guess those days are over now. exclusive games, yes we respect those who are members of bag,its realy unfair for those who just play with you guys and memebers have to pay for membership. dominance over game site; long before the baguio alliance was formed, and teams were members of the said alliance,correct me if im wrong but from what ive heared there was agreement thru the teams of designation of work.those who attended know those detail. still i will still be an airsofter,who gives respect to any team and any individual player. just giving my point of view

i respect your decisions sir raven,but im afraid for you guys (freelancers) if 1 day or this 2008, if our senate will really put preassure on our hobby, and impost a directive about airsoft..

example:

1 of the directives is that...if a person with a replica gun/special airgun(aeg) is cought, and dont have docus to show like ID you will end up to be interrogated and perhaps confiscate your beng beng by the authorities

*may directive kasi na naimpose if im not mistaken na you need a team to be identified with, to verify that your an airsoft player

agree with sir raven. Indeed ther is no perfect team and we hear a lot of complaints by and against BAG members. Kaya nga po we are trying to address yung mga weaknesses ng grupo and its members. It just so happen that we have to start with ourselves sa BAG before dealing with others. By limiting it, as much as possible, muna sa members, we can determine if we are ready indeed to play the game na wala nang masyadong reklamo. That way, when we have visitors, everyone would enjoy.

I respect your being a freelancer sir, you have the right to be one. In the same manner that we have the right to join a group equal with your right not to join one. Anyway, I believe that this respect for each other would still bring us together sa gamesite where we can set aside our affiliations and just treat each other as a fellow airsofter. olright sir?

there are some good reasons for being a member of b a g. you get to have some privileges which non-members can not avail of. that is why, members are assessed with membership fees and monthly dues, specifically to enjoy these what you call privileges.

sir raven, you opted to be a freelancer and have been playing with the b a g, you are very lucky to be one of those enjoying the privilege even without having to join the group. and see, you can even get to post in the thread a new topic of your own liking and choice, isnt that even bonus for you as a freelancer

b a g can be proud....as you chose them as your playing buddies....and later...we can assure you.....b a g will be playing airsoft just for fun and camaraderie...as the txt of sir tupa goes....if ur pasaway you will stop receiving this txt...if you are not...then join us and lets have fun


umpah

yobski3131 wrote:

there are some good reasons for being a member of b a g. you get to have some privileges which non-members can not avail of. that is why, members are assessed with membership fees and monthly dues, specifically to enjoy these what you call privileges.

as you opted to be a freelancer and have been playing with the b a g, you are very lucky to be one of those enjoying the privilege even without have to join the group.

b a g can be proud....as you chose them as your playing buddies....and later...we can assure you.....b a g will be playing airsoft just for fun and camaraderie...as the txt of sir tupa goes....if ur pasaway you will stop receiving this txt...if you are not...then join us and lets have fun


umpah

You got the point sir yobskii


buyah! (HIT SQUAD BATTLECRY)

agpayso! among the privileges is to get rebuked for your actions, if warranted.

Let's us meet tomorrow Friday at 7pm at Tupa Mabini Shop to discuss all our issues. Wala munang dinner pero meron naman Bread and Softdrinks.

betagboy wrote:

i never mentioned this. i think this was your own idea. yes it's not logical. you just over reacted on my thoughts.

i agree, i over reacted
> im jst over protective of the cqb site sir
> pm for you