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PostSubject: Hostage taking ngayun lang....   Mon Aug 23, 2010 10:19 pm

mga sirs, anu sa tingin nyo ung naganap na hostage taking ngayun lang...?????
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PostSubject: Re: Hostage taking ngayun lang....   Mon Aug 23, 2010 10:22 pm

kasi parang lang... lacking of coordination although every precaution naman natugunan ng pansin. just my opinion. very disturbing scenario...

eh kasi naman d nalang inuto si sir mendoza nung medjo kalmado pa. oi buddy nanalo ka sa lotto or something..

hagis ng hagis ng tear gas at flashbang kadalasan palpak bumalik sa kanila tas ala pa gas mask kahit ni isa. buti na mga kamasa sa airsofters meron sila.


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PostSubject: Re: Hostage taking ngayun lang....   Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:33 pm

01. lousy response
02. no plans (kung meron man... nag-iisang plan lang... walang back-up plan)
03. crappy coordination
04. they cannot even handle the crowd

just my observations...
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PostSubject: Re: Hostage taking ngayun lang....   Tue Aug 24, 2010 1:33 am

nakakahiya
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PostSubject: Re: Hostage taking ngayun lang....   Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:56 am

sir sa nangyari na yon.. the whole world saw how Philippine S.W.A.T. (Syet Wala Akong Training) do their jobs.. sa nilabas ng media, ilang beses tumayo sa pinto si Mendoza and the sipers had their opportunity.. nakakahiya rin sa bansa natin na nagbigay na ng Black Travel Alert ang HK papunta sa pinas..
na dala sila sa report nung driver na patay na lahat at bara bara na sila sa operations nila.. buti pa mga naglalaro ng airsoft.. kahit lonewolf ka, marunong ka pa rin mki-coordinate sa mga teamates mo.. Very Happy

major comment: SWAT = KSP (Kulang sa Practice)
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PostSubject: Re: Hostage taking ngayun lang....   Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:01 am

the place was too crowded... by the operatives who seem not to know what to do and by the so-called "osyoseros" who greatly deserve to be hit in the foot...

confusion was all around... majority of operatives believed what the driver said, "patay na lahat sa loob"... grabe...

the action made by the policemen to the relatives of the hostage-taker, specifically to the brother, were outright manifestations of cruelty, thus brutality on their part...anyone who's relatives were treated in such way will definitely be in outrage...more so that the hostage-taker can be considered to be in an unstable state...

there had been claims that the operatives were "newbies" who had just had their training...the scenario did a great part for their exposure...

but despite all these, i would like to salute those others who did their duty despite fear and confusion...those whose heart remained ablaze despite the cold rainy weather...i believe that not everyone wished the scenario would in such a bloody manner...
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PostSubject: Re: Hostage taking ngayun lang....   Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:19 am

time to call BOBOCOP este i mean "ROBOCOP"

i dont blame the police force...i blame the corrupt officials handling our police force

epic fail at errors para sakin nung napanuod ko ung video:

poor crowd control = asan na ung riot n crowd controll na pina praktis nila>?wala man lang na apply

wrong apprehension of the renegade polices' brother = nag berserk ung renagade police

omfg there is only 1 enemy vs parang whole battalion of manila POLICE,SAF,SWAT....what a show off...palpak naman

they lack equipments..they even throw some tear gas...wtf asan na ung mga budget natin para sa mga modern load outs...it should be a stun grenade or flashbang lng dpat kasi 1 lng si mendoza e

tinali-an ng maliit na tali ung door ng bus...tpos nag snap...and meron pang power sledge tpos tumilapon...

mababagal ung mga pulis...ung isang assault element sobrang taba nahirapan sa pag retreat...pnp needs work out

dpat minimized ang media=pampagulo lang sila at pinapakita nila ung nangyayari sa labas kay mendoza...may tv sa loob ng bus..

parang nag time in ang mga pulis sa computeran,nag laro ng crossfire..12 hours haha

dpat neutralize lng ginawa nila,pero hinde...boom headshot!adik ung sniper

NCRPO at MPD directors kayo dpat masibak!palpak ang assault team at fire team nyo

poor pnp skills and equipments+over powering media=MISSION FAILed









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PostSubject: Re: Hostage taking ngayun lang....   Tue Aug 24, 2010 1:32 pm

agree mission failed nakakahiya ngay ..

pero im not ashamed to be a FIlipino im ashamed that mendoza is ...


anu ba nmn kasing kalokohan yan manilas finest pala ah .. well fine nga sila not good, not even effectve....

dapat dito may masibak kung may political will talaga dapat may masibak
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PostSubject: Re: Hostage taking ngayun lang....   Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:20 pm

nakakadismaya at nakakalungkot...

pano kaya naisip ni mendoza na papayagan siyang ibalik sa serbisyo after niyang manghostage? Question
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PostSubject: Re: Hostage taking ngayun lang....   Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:41 pm

made in the philippines yung power sledge hammer sir hunter hehehe lol! baka walang baterya...

well nothing to blame nangyari na...
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PostSubject: Re: Hostage taking ngayun lang....   Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:31 pm

dismissed na daw yung hostage taker? bakit nasa kanya pa sevice M16 niya? Or baka hindi naman. If not his service firearm, it only shows how easy to acquire an M16

but please don't forget, its easy to comment after the situation has ended and if you are not in the line of fire. We are all absent from the scene and are only basing our comments on what we saw on the TV, heard on the radio or from our own barbero. Maraming X-fafctors ang di natin alam na alam ng mga nandoon. If only for this, I would give the PNP operatives the presumption of regularity in performing their tasks in resolving the situation. Am not saying that they have no lapses though.

this is not to glorify the action taken by the hostage taker, his means of airing his hinanakit is out of line

may this serve as a wake up call for us to be preemptive not always reactive

possible airsoft scenario...kaninong sasakyan ang unang gagamitin? we can charge a higher game fee
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PostSubject: Re: Hostage taking ngayun lang....   Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:01 pm

sa susunod...pwede bang mp o argus na lang ang mag rescue,hehe


 


 


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PostSubject: Re: Hostage taking ngayun lang....   Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:51 am

na frame up ung hostage taker kaya sya nasibak sa trabaho. at sa sobrang sama ng loob, ginawa nya un
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PostSubject: Re: Hostage taking ngayun lang....   Wed Aug 25, 2010 11:17 am

read this na lang mga sirs then comment if they were correct

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11069616
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PostSubject: Re: Hostage taking ngayun lang....   Wed Aug 25, 2010 11:32 am

AND THE ROOTS OF THOSE.........IS CORRUPTION
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PostSubject: Re: Hostage taking ngayun lang....   Wed Aug 25, 2010 11:50 am

tho we might end this thread already with respect to those who lost there lives and about the tragic end of it.. i think there are nothing to discuss here wit regards to that, we all know that the pnp who were in charge by that time do have lapses and mistakes- and the whole world knows about it not just the people in our country....
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PostSubject: Re: Hostage taking ngayun lang....   Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:32 pm

yes tama close na natin tong thread...sorry sa mga na offend...
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PostSubject: Re: Hostage taking ngayun lang....   Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:43 pm

oou nga pwedeng scenario toh .. nice one papang hehehehhehe.... kahit karton lang haha panu kaya yun ....


padonate nmn ng bus jan hehhehhehee
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PostSubject: Re: Hostage taking ngayun lang....   Thu Aug 26, 2010 1:34 am

http://ph.video.yahoo.com/watch/8139926/21577944

try ninyo panoorin to mga sir.. report ni erwin tulfo..

RIP sa mga naging victims at kay Sir Mendoza.. we will never know kung ano talaga yung gusto nya ipaglaban..
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PostSubject: Re: Hostage taking ngayun lang....   Thu Aug 26, 2010 7:27 pm

oi eso nice naka hold pa ung operation nila pwede sila hehehe.

yup yup the world is commenting on this unfortunate event that happened here in the Philippines. Lapse is only of the issue but for me i blame the "media" and the tactical officer who is handling the situation. why not give mendoza all his demands and take to legal matters after.besides, hostage taking is another case in the first place and being police him self it falls under unjust of unbecoming of a police officer. atleast it could have been another scenario not like what have happened.

i take my side to mendoza, any person who is pushed to the limit do the same. to see his family being harassed via television put him over the edge. who wouldn't? parang baboy ung kapatid na hinihila lang.

lots of happy triggers on the side of the police and swat, pumutok lang mendoza sa loob = blind firing ang sagot ng mga pulis and swat?????

Swat is considered to be elite of the elite, best of the best. if this is the best of the Philippines then sheeeesh..... good luck on that.

this thread is not to put down the respondents but to show that Filipinos are not blind. it is wake up call to the authorities. where are all the budget and finances? is it being snappy of an officer only projects at drills? Wake up Philippines! this is your best of the best were talking about.
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PostSubject: Re: Hostage taking ngayun lang....   Thu Aug 26, 2010 10:53 pm

heheheh di pa sila ung best hehe me SAF dun moret lang tlaga ground commander di ginamit ... isa pa ang ibig sabihin ng swat na ngayon ay

S- SUGOD !!trnytime
W- WAIT confused
A-ATRAS Shocked
T-TAGO affraid

HEHEHHEEHEHE albino

sa mga asa law profession po para maiba nmn anu masasabi nyu sa mga kaso sa kapatid ni mendoza mag proprosper ba ???

p.s. ka (french word prohibited) ni lim
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PostSubject: Re: Hostage taking ngayun lang....   Fri Aug 27, 2010 2:21 pm

FROM MANILA'S FINEST TO MANILA'S FINISHED!
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PostSubject: Re: Hostage taking ngayun lang....   Thu Sep 02, 2010 5:41 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Hostage taking ngayun lang....   Fri Sep 03, 2010 5:33 pm


naka stand by ang SAF di ginamit.... hays....
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PostSubject: Re: Hostage taking ngayun lang....   Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:41 pm

kaya daw di ginamit saf sabi ni magtibay kasi local scope daw ung trato nila sa hostage taking hindi national tapos ung mga pulis daw 2 years na daw sila nananalo sa tactical ops 2 years n nilang tinalo ang saf kaya yun sila ang ginamit ... (kung totoo to anu nalang kaya ginawa ng saf? hehhehehehhe??)
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